Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > Club and Speciality Forums > Forum Community Car Clubs > AU Falcon.com.au

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-11-2005, 06:57 PM   #1
XR6BADBOY:P
MissYouBluePrint
 
XR6BADBOY:P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: House
Posts: 16
Default XR6 Chewing Threw Fuel

What is the average amount of City Kilometres you should be able to achieve out of 1 Tank of 65 litre Compacity.

Do you do a sum of 65 litres X 4.0 litre engine and get the results?

Or do XR6's chew threw fuel like there is no tomorrow.

At the momment, I am trying to fix a problem with Fuel Economy, and average tank I am getting is 275-300 kilometres at tank.

Comments and help greatly appreciated, i want to appreciate my car, not make it a Fuel Stations Delight.

Is there any of these EFI experts please dont' hesitate in msg'ing me.

Thanks

XR6BADBOY:P is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-11-2005, 07:03 PM   #2
8pAc
RDP #181
 
8pAc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 438
Default

That consumption is worse than my 220 kw xr8 on pure stop start city cycle. Have you done any mods to the car?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by MRJUCY
Camrys like most Toyotas have always been ugly, poorly equiped & brain crushingly dull but that's what a lot of people look for in a car unfortunately. I like my fridge, it keeps my beer cold other people like them so much they want to drive them it seems.
8pAc is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-11-2005, 07:11 PM   #3
fiery
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
fiery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: North Brisbane
Posts: 8,529
Default

my XR6 averages (city style traffic) about 450 klms per tank (my tank is apparently a 68Lt and I usually have about 1/4 tank left - I never let it get under that)

Hope that helps
fiery is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-11-2005, 07:15 PM   #4
geckoGT
Ich bin ein auslander
 
geckoGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Loving the Endorphine Machine
Posts: 7,453
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Always level headed and i notice him being the voice of reason when a thread may be getting heated 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by XR6BADBOY:P
What is the average amount of City Kilometres you should be able to achieve out of 1 Tank of 65 litre Compacity.

Do you do a sum of 65 litres X 4.0 litre engine and get the results?

Or do XR6's chew threw fuel like there is no tomorrow.

At the momment, I am trying to fix a problem with Fuel Economy, and average tank I am getting is 275-300 kilometres at tank.

Comments and help greatly appreciated, i want to appreciate my car, not make it a Fuel Stations Delight.

Is there any of these EFI experts please dont' hesitate in msg'ing me.

Thanks
That works out to be 21L/100km. ouch! Either you have a very heavy right foot or you have a problem with the car. My BOSS gets 13.8-14.4 in suburban driving.
__________________
Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional!
geckoGT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-11-2005, 07:16 PM   #5
Dark Horse
_Oo===oO_
 
Dark Horse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1,471
Default

Officially its 12L/100 km city, 8L/100 km open roads.

Working it out is easy.

Off your figures its your fuel use of 65 litres divided by the distance you get, which is say 300 km.

That gives you 0.216 litres per kilometre. Multiply that by 100 and you're using 21L/100 km which is 9L more than the standard Ford figures.

Working backwards of the 12L/100 km mark it's your tank capacity 68L divided by the 12 L. which is 5.67. Multiply that by 100 to get your kilometres and its 567km. Well in an ideal world that would be the case.
__________________
COURAGE - ENDURANCE - MATESHIP - SACRIFICE
Dark Horse is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-11-2005, 07:42 PM   #6
BJ
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,377
Default

People this is for the X series as in 1960 throught to 1985 forum if you need to talk about you late model stuff could you please use you own forums.
BJ is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-11-2005, 07:55 PM   #7
xdclevo
The Fun Mobile
 
xdclevo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cairns
Posts: 5,219
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CH7472
People this is for the X series as in 1960 throught to 1985 forum if you need to talk about you late model stuff could you please use you own forums.
Ohhhhhh dad!!!! He has an X series car. hahahaha
Or did you have an "ultra grumpy" day. :
Read the rules: anyone with an "X"-ellent ford is welcome with open arms, but must not make a ***** of themselves. :thebirds:
__________________
408 cube Cleveland
TFC @ AFD 2V, 750 DP
10.7 @ 125 mph
2V powahhhhh

Last edited by xdclevo; 09-11-2005 at 08:02 PM.
xdclevo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-11-2005, 04:13 PM   #8
Pik0
Regular Member
 
Pik0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 391
Default

my AU 2 XR6 gets about 400 from a full talk atm
im waiting to save up for an edit to see if theres some crazy rich mixtures running or something cause ford said they didnt have any problems or codes in their car..
__________________
AU Series 2 XR6
Redback Exhaust
Sound system
Coming Soon:
Lowering
Pik0 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-11-2005, 05:55 PM   #9
XLS99 Ute man
Who Loves Mountain Women
 
XLS99 Ute man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Blue Mountains
Posts: 363
Default

how big are the petrol tanks in the utes?
cause im sure i have an 80 ltr tank
__________________
XLS 99 UTE
It is Black...

XLS Falcon Ute
Full Sick 2.5 Inch -> To Double 3 Inch Tips Exhaust Sports System
18 Inch Bling Bling Rims
Altezza Tail Bling Bling Lights
Kenwood Head Deck + Amps + Bling Bling Sub
Bright Orange BLING BLING Fordforums.com Sticker

OOoooohh Yeah! Bling Bling
XLS99 Ute man is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-11-2005, 06:01 PM   #10
ozyute
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 119
Default

I drove from sydney to gold coast on a full tank of fuel 857 km in a au 11 xr6
ute coming back from wagga afd, have to say very pleased.
ozyute is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-11-2005, 06:17 PM   #11
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

Your MAP sensor is toast and its running on start up (cold start) maps. Like driving with the choke on full. Happened to my VCT too.

Now I get a glorious 380-400km a tank... but the car is revved HARD on a regular basis. I could probably get 450km if I gave a crap. :
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-11-2005, 09:33 PM   #12
TCK-098
Regular Member
 
TCK-098's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SMITHFIELD NSW
Posts: 472
Default

When i bought my car i averaged 350-400kms and since ive done cold air and exhaust i get between 400-600kms behaving or being a ******** 300kms to the tank.

highway 8.5 per 100kms 0r between 12.3-14.5 per 100kms around town and thats with a 68 litre tank
__________________
18 T6 Multivan
03 Ba Xr turbo 300rwkw
TCK-098 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-11-2005, 10:05 PM   #13
V8falcons
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
V8falcons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NSW
Posts: 1,802
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casper
Your MAP sensor is toast and its running on start up (cold start) maps. Like driving with the choke on full. Happened to my VCT too.

Now I get a glorious 380-400km a tank... but the car is revved HARD on a regular basis. I could probably get 450km if I gave a crap. :
My godddddddd,Im getting 700+ high way only driving in my SR wagon and Im going for more with extractors an any thing else i can get.
I pushed it abit to far today and ran out about 1klm from home freaking trip DTE is out a bit.
Out of my VCT xr6 ute (83ltrs) I got 680+ average, the best was 880ks back from tarree.
:
V8falcons is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-11-2005, 10:25 PM   #14
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vctxr6ute
My godddddddd,Im getting 700+ high way only driving in my SR wagon and Im going for more with extractors an any thing else i can get.
I pushed it abit to far today and ran out about 1klm from home freaking trip DTE is out a bit.
Out of my VCT xr6 ute (83ltrs) I got 680+ average, the best was 880ks back from tarree.
:
considering I dont ever get auto lock up till around 3000rpm and the car basically lives at 3000-5500rpm when ever I drive it (after it warms up of course), I dont think 380km a tank is that bad :
Remember, its not a daily driver, its lucky to do 100kms a week most of the time, so when I get to drive it... I have fun. Most of the time it just sits in the garage gathering dust.
Lately I've washed it more than I've actually had to put fuel in it (doesnt help being interstate for work nearly every week.)
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 09:59 AM   #15
HLC
Audi S3
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney.
Posts: 8,307
Default

when i picked my car up (AU2 Fairmont I6), it was pushin bout 17 litres to the hundred. so i reset the computer, and it reads about 14 litres per hundred but its really doing about 15, and i dont push it all the time... i dunno... where as my mums car, VCT, only does about 13.6 litres to the hundred, calculated... im gonna have to hit my dad up for some mod's :
__________________
HLC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 10:22 AM   #16
buickman
buickman
 
buickman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: eastern suburbs Melb Vic
Posts: 1,462
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Horse
Officially its 12L/100 km city, 8L/100 km open roads.

Working it out is easy.

Off your figures its your fuel use of 65 litres divided by the distance you get, which is say 300 km.

That gives you 0.216 litres per kilometre. Multiply that by 100 and you're using 21L/100 km which is 9L more than the standard Ford figures.

Working backwards of the 12L/100 km mark it's your tank capacity 68L divided by the 12 L. which is 5.67. Multiply that by 100 to get your kilometres and its 567km. Well in an ideal world that would be the case.

Thats about what I get out of a VCT powered ghia. But I had a blocked A/filter & it was running up the 14.5L/100 km around town. I get about 420-450 kms out of a tank around town & 650-700kms on h/way at legal speed limits.

buickman
buickman is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 10:58 AM   #17
hambo_12
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

One question, is there a simple way to check if the map sensor is buggered or not??
  Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 11:13 AM   #18
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hambo_12
One question, is there a simple way to check if the map sensor is buggered or not??
simplest way is put it on a dyno and watch the A/F ratio go to crap. It will read WAY too rich. Not just rich... MEGA rich.
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 12:43 PM   #19
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,704
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Or you could drive with the MAP sensor unplugged and see if the car runs any differently. If it runs the same, chances are the MAP is stuffed. This is the same test I use for O2 sensor (unplug it and see how the car runs).
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 12:45 PM   #20
hambo_12
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JC-XRWgn
Or you could drive with the MAP sensor unplugged and see if the car runs any differently. If it runs the same, chances are the MAP is stuffed. This is the same test I use for O2 sensor (unplug it and see how the car runs).

So how do I do that? (Keep in mind you are talking to a person with zero mechanical experience!)
  Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 01:17 PM   #21
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,704
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Well, it's not as easy as it sounds (nothing ever is, really). The MAP sensor is fitted to the intake manifold, basically under the Throttle Body (TB). You may need to remove piping and the TB to get to it - it depends on how big or small your hands are! Once you have access to the plug, just unplug it (the electrical connection), leaving the MAP sensor still connected to the manifold (otherwise it will suck in air).
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 01:30 PM   #22
big_waity
Windsor Man!
 
big_waity's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Not under the bonnet!
Posts: 2,048
Default

I'm getting about 18L/100k around town from my EF 4.0 That's pretty bad though. I'd look at getting your car toa mechanic for a bit of a looksie.
__________________
Wife's car - BA XT Wagon - Lowm shiney wheels, dark tint, no bottom half of front bar, faded paint :/
My Car - 93 Diesel Lux - not as fast but more reliable than her falcon!
big_waity is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 01:39 PM   #23
hambo_12
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JC-XRWgn
Well, it's not as easy as it sounds (nothing ever is, really). The MAP sensor is fitted to the intake manifold, basically under the Throttle Body (TB). You may need to remove piping and the TB to get to it - it depends on how big or small your hands are! Once you have access to the plug, just unplug it (the electrical connection), leaving the MAP sensor still connected to the manifold (otherwise it will suck in air).
Any side effects that can happen with doing this??
  Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 02:36 PM   #24
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,704
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hambo_12
Any side effects that can happen with doing this??
I am not 100% sure, but if the car starts and runs (idles), then it is just using the base fuel maps etc, and will continue to do so while it's not getting a signla from ther MAP sensor. It will run rich, so it could potentially clog up the plugs, but if it's only for a 5 or 10 minutes drive (test) then it should be OK. I'm no mechanic though, so I guess it's try at your own peril.

I have disconnected the O2 sensor (from the exhaust) and the car runs very rich, but no lasting effects. In fact it ran no worse than when it was connected, which is how I knew the sensor was stuffed. Replaced the O2, and it was all good again. I'm presuming that the same logic would apply with the MAP sensor.
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 02:41 PM   #25
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

No side effects really.. Over a period of time it will clog the Cat but that takes months/years.
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 02:42 PM   #26
hambo_12
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Very sorry to hijack your thread xr6badboy, but would a stuffed MAP sensor cause the car to have trouble starting, i.e coughing and spluttering for about 2-7 seconds before starting sometimes....
  Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-11-2005, 02:49 PM   #27
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

unlikely... the MAP does not have anything to do with cold starts, thats the base maps in the ECU. Never had any effect on mine during start up.
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-11-2005, 08:36 PM   #28
DJM83
Barra Turbo > V8
Donating Member3
 
DJM83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 26,080
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hambo_12
Very sorry to hijack your thread xr6badboy, but would a stuffed MAP sensor cause the car to have trouble starting, i.e coughing and spluttering for about 2-7 seconds before starting sometimes....
i have the same trouble with mine sometimes its does that wen i start it although mainly wen its hot idles rough and coughs abit
__________________
-2011 XR6 Turbo Ute - Lux Pack - M6
-2022 Hyundai Tucson Highlander Diesel N Line
DJM83 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-11-2005, 08:44 PM   #29
max^power
Formerly au^ute
 
max^power's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: VIC
Posts: 1,032
Default

My ute does about 350-450 (with full time grampa driving, and 2 long trips a week).

Hope this helps, utes are heavier so it may not help that much.
max^power is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 12:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL