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Old 19-02-2009, 02:01 AM   #1
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Default your thoughts on the following exhaust system?

Just contacted my local exhaust place.........they said they would "normally use Lukey extractors and an Auspak system on this car"

Anybody have any experience with Lukey headers? I know their exhausts are pretty decent, but not too sure about the headers....

And has anybody heard of Auspak? I certainly haven't.......any feedback??

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Old 19-02-2009, 02:55 AM   #2
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Lukey headers generally have press bends in their pipes which restricts flow at higher rev ranges.
They are an ok choice if your wanting some extra poke in the lower-mid rev range. They are more affordable than other brands.
On a positive note, they have an excellent throbby note that is remenisent of a v8.

The auspak pipes i have never heard of.

I would recommend getting a mandrel bent Redback 2.5" system with a straight thru centre offset glass pack muffler.

Alternate popular header choices are pacemaker, genie, HM, and Jim Mock.

But it depends on how serious you are with power, sound and price.
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Lukey stuff is great, easily the best sound out of all the brands.
Iver never had there headers, but know people who have, and they swear by them.
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Old 20-02-2009, 01:39 AM   #4
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Well I gave them some more information about what I was looking for, and they came back with this follow-up reply and an actual quote...

"I would recommend that you use the 4499s together with a redback hi performance hi flow cat and the systems we use are auspak which incorporate a straight thru offset design. The cost would be 1350 for the complete job including a twin tip."

What do you guys think?? Pricewise - is this too much???
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Old 20-02-2009, 02:46 AM   #5
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I think the price is good, Pacies are around $650 on threre own, cat $250, cat back $350, thats only $100 for install.
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auspak are cheap reproduction type exhaust systems, press bent and just made to be as cheap as possible.
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Old 20-02-2009, 07:52 AM   #7
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auspak are cheap reproduction type exhaust systems, press bent and just made to be as cheap as possible.
I did specify to them in my email to them that I was after a MANDREL BENT (yes I wrote it in captials so they would see it) exhaust......and he still said auspak......have you had previous experience with auspak 5.0whiteghia?

just sent the guy another quick email for clarification on whether this auspak system he's talking about is press or mandrel bent............and whether he has any other brands......
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I think your payng too much for paccies. I can get them supplied and fitted here in adelaide for $550. I think they are trying to roger you.
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I got a couple of quotes for Pacemaker PH4480 of around $650 - $750, supply only, here in country NSW. That was around November last year.

Apparently they put the price of their headers up as the price of steel went up, so I would be happy with the quote you received.
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Old 20-02-2009, 11:18 AM   #10
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I think your payng too much for paccies. I can get them supplied and fitted here in adelaide for $550. I think they are trying to roger you.
I dunno, it sounds alright to me so far......naturally ill get some from other places.....just trying to nail these guys down first....but referring to what monty said:

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I think the price is good, Pacies are around $650 on threre own, cat $250, cat back $350, thats only $100 for install
Who's not to say they are charging 550 for the pacies, 250 for the cat, 350 for cat back and 200 for install??? Maybe I should ask them to break it down.....

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yes dave, we used to own a exhaust shop 6 months ago, our buy price on the auspak stuff was about under half the price of a redback system. im never seem a mandrel bent system from them, we always used the redback mandrel bend exhaust, and the auspak we were using for the cheap replacement stuff. Which was very much just cheap made as well.

Where in melbourne are you?

The redback hi flow cats, arnt very good in comparison to the likes of a magnaflow hi flow metal core cat, and price wise very little difference bout $20-$40 from memory.
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I agree. I'm go the magnaflow metal core cat shortly. One of the best flowing cat's on the market.
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yes dave, we used to own a exhaust shop 6 months ago, our buy price on the auspak stuff was about under half the price of a redback system. im never seem a mandrel bent system from them, we always used the redback mandrel bend exhaust, and the auspak we were using for the cheap replacement stuff. Which was very much just cheap made as well.

Where in melbourne are you?

The redback hi flow cats, arnt very good in comparison to the likes of a magnaflow hi flow metal core cat, and price wise very little difference bout $20-$40 from memory.
cool thanks for the warning!!!

I'm in south-east melbourne (wheelers hill / glen waverley)

yeah I've seen a few builds on here where they've got the magnaflow.....so yeah id be probably wanting to go with that too.....

Like I said earlier, I am going to approach other places as well.........I just wanted some help from my forum buddies to dissect this place's quote!!!
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you've probably dissected the quote well already. Its just a matter of what you get for that price.
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yes dave, we used to own a exhaust shop 6 months ago
5.0, you will be able to help me with this as well...

"which incorporate a straight thru offset design."

Is that a reference to the muffler?

Is that the best way to go??
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Just a quick question for 5.0whiteaughia. I have a set of press bent headers sitting in the garage right now. I'm not sure of the brand. They are used (I picked them up for $100 ). Is there any draw back to fitting press bent headers to the car over the stock system, especially if they are a cheaper brand.
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Just a quick question for 5.0whiteaughia. I have a set of press bent headers sitting in the garage right now. I'm not sure of the brand. They are used (I picked them up for $100 ). Is there any draw back to fitting press bent headers to the car over the stock system, especially if they are a cheaper brand.
from what I believe, press bent will still give you better performance, but not as much as mandrel bent, as the pipes are actually crushed when they are bent, so not as much air gets through - therefore not as much performance gain as what mandrel bend would give you........but yes there is still a gain to be had!!!
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well, got a very nasty email from these guys saying not to waste their time with things I know nothing about........isn't that the purpose of an enquiry??? to find out things so i can make a decision regarding a purchase??

Well they certainly won't be getting anything out of me then!
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well, got a very nasty email from these guys saying not to waste their time with things I know nothing about........isn't that the purpose of an enquiry??? to find out things so i can make a decision regarding a purchase??

Well they certainly won't be getting anything out of me then!
You should explain that you are a member of a large forum and let them you know that you'll be informing one and all about there excellent customer service, must be very busy to treat you like that mate :togo:
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Wow, Id deffinately not be using them now.
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well, got a very nasty email from these guys saying not to waste their time with things I know nothing about........isn't that the purpose of an enquiry??? to find out things so i can make a decision regarding a purchase??

Well they certainly won't be getting anything out of me then!
your kidding? what a bunch of losers. their name will be mud amongst the ford community
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Lukey stuff is great, easily the best sound out of all the brands.
Iver never had there headers, but know people who have, and they swear by them.
i have lukey headers ...yes press bent , i did`nt think it had much of a power increase (but my brother took it for a run and said it is noticeable...go figure),but they had a very (sounds like a v8 at low revs : ) good note even before we enlarged the outlet and fitted full 3 inch system all the way through, i could be wrong but by the bumometer the best gain for mine was with a 3 inch cat back lukey race muffler and hotdog (xr vct).
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You can get a redback system for around $350 odd and fit it yourself - it just bolts up to the cat. You can also get pacemaker 4480s (comp) or 4499s (Try Y) for around $650 fitted, and a cat should only be about $200 extra. So that's around $1200 fitted - just shop around for the best price.
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