Brake Pads

Sourbastard · 03-11-2005, 02:19 PM

Time has come to replace the Brake Pads on the Ute.

Whats everyone using and what can they recommend?

Anyone using EBC Greenstuff?

JC · 03-11-2005, 02:23 PM

Bendix Advance are pretty good all rounders. The pads you should get depend on what you want to use the car for, but Advance are a good compromise between effectiveness, resistance to fade, lack of dust (though there is always dust), no squeal and a good feel through the pedal.

Sourbastard · 03-11-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JC-XRWgn

Bendix Advance are pretty good all rounders. The pads you should get depend on what you want to use the car for, but Advance are a good compromise between effectiveness, resistance to fade, lack of dust (though there is always dust), no squeal and a good feel through the pedal.

I had a fair bit of trouble with my last set of Bendix Advance which chewed through my stock rotors like they were butter.

I'm runnnig Ferodo Excels at the moment, which are ok but very dusty.

**Mechan1k** · 03-11-2005, 02:49 PM

I just has Bendix Advance put on the front ... and they have been great ... my rotors needed replacing and was told that I'd have squealing issues and disc warping ... funny thing is that I don't though and the pads have been great. I have great peal feel ... and fade is rare (even when loaded right up.)

I have heard the Greenstuff chew through the rotors quite badly ... but the Blackstuff is kinder on the discs and is just as effective in braking performance ... the Greenstuff works better when you really heat the brakes up though.

I was advised (when i get the Tickford rotors and 4-piston calipers to go with the Blackstuff if i wanted to save my discs and still have good braking performance for courier work/heavy city driving under load.

I have heard good things about Ferodos ... they wear kinda quick though ... but braking is excellent.

The Dok · 03-11-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechan1k

I have heard good things about Ferodos ... they wear kinda quick though ... but braking is excellent.

I put Ferodos on mine (AU1 wag) @6 mths ago. Nasty nasty pads, dusting squealing ba$tards of things. I thought.....ok, lets try that anti squeal (Dynagrip) spray....worked well for @200ks, now it seems to squeal worse...can't wait till I can replace these pigs of pads & upgrade to the Bendix brand which are in the rear & on my EF & have never been a problem.
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Sourbastard · 03-11-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechan1k

I just has Bendix Advance put on the front ... and they have been great ... my rotors needed replacing and was told that I'd have squealing issues and disc warping ... funny thing is that I don't though and the pads have been great. I have great peal feel ... and fade is rare (even when loaded right up.)

I have heard the Greenstuff chew through the rotors quite badly ... but the Blackstuff is kinder on the discs and is just as effective in braking performance ... the Greenstuff works better when you really heat the brakes up though.

I was advised (when i get the Tickford rotors and 4-piston calipers to go with the Blackstuff if i wanted to save my discs and still have good braking performance for courier work/heavy city driving under load.

I have heard good things about Ferodos ... they wear kinda quick though ... but braking is excellent.

Yeah my Ferodo's have worn in about 11 months, but I was told they are not very hard on the rotors. I'd rather replace pads then rotors any day.

**Mechan1k** · 03-11-2005, 03:13 PM

Same I'd rather change pads than rotors ... especially when i upgrade to the 330mm discs later on.

I'd hate to the Brembo package ... a TS50 was in at Cresent Motorsport the other day ... it needed new rotors as they were under minimum thickness .. and needed new pads ... one new Brembo 360-something mm rotor = $1000 ... OUCH ... the pad was something like $250 per pair ($500 just for the front pads all up).

Found out the part number on the T3 TS50 was the same part number as the Ferrari F40/F50.

cArSiK · 03-11-2005, 03:21 PM

How about Bendix Ultimates? Ive only heard good things about them....thats what i plan on putting on the XR once my current stock ones wear....

Anyone know how Ultimates are on rotors?

James

xr8 007 · 03-11-2005, 03:35 PM

Ferodo formula pads at the front and ferodo XL's in the rear......If EBC made them for the seriers II on wards i would go for them but they dont so i'll settle for the Ferderal mogul's Ferodo.

xr8ute · 03-11-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cArSiK

Anyone know how Ultimates are on rotors?

They will chew your stock rotors like Pacman

Ferodo Formula's are the way to go IMO (not Excel). I paid about $200 at Autopro for a set to suit AU1 fronts....probably much cheaper from one of the performance brake specialist importers.

The Bendix Ultimates w/stock rotors, had good bite, and pulled up well....but they used to fade real quick (scary on old pac hwy). They annihilated the stock rotors.

I fitted Ferodo Formulas w/DBA slotted about 60,000kms ago. They pulled up a little better than ultimates, firmer pedal than ultimates, and they just dont fade....Never took them to the track though. Pads have just run out, rotors look fine (no ridge).

I'll be using Ferodo Formula DS2500s (I had DS2000's) front and Formula Excels on the rear next pad change along with some good fluid i.e. Motul RBF 600. Maybe some Goodridge braided lines too.

**FTE217** · 03-11-2005, 04:06 PM

I vote for the Formula's also, have them with the DBA4000 slotted. Work great,bit of dust but not as bad as Ultimate's.
You got it about right xr8ute.
I have had slotted rotors on my AU for over 90,000k's mind you I have worn 3pairs at the front but I drive hard and I get them cheap luckily.
Used many pad names over the years and atm for the money Ferodo have it right for now from sources in the game.

Sagerian · 03-11-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dok

I put Ferodos on mine (AU1 wag) @6 mths ago. Nasty nasty pads, dusting squealing ba$tards of things.

I made the mistake of Ferodo's on the front... Still squealing. Currently waiting for the buggers to die.

cArSiK · 03-11-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver

I vote for the Formula's also, have them with the DBA4000 slotted. Work great,bit of dust but not as bad as Ultimate's.
You got it about right xr8ute.
I have had slotted rotors on my AU for over 90,000k's mind you I have worn 3pairs at the front but I drive hard and I get them cheap luckily.
Used many pad names over the years and atm for the money Ferodo have it right for now from sources in the game.

Do the formulas squeal alot?

James

**FTE217** · 03-11-2005, 04:16 PM

After a month or so yes but I did the wrong thing of not getting the rotor skimmed and thought that was the reason, got them skimmed and caked on some anti squel goo at the back of the pads and there fine for ages now.
Bucknaked has the same combo, I knew he had some clip issues but no other issues.

Sourbastard · 03-11-2005, 04:19 PM

Incase anyone is interested, these are the prices for the Ferodo gear from Repco as of 2 minutes ago.

Ferodo Foruma DS2000 Front Pads $181 per pair
Ferodo Foruma Excel Pads Rear $66.99 per pair

buickman · 03-11-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by xr8ute

They will chew your stock rotors like Pacman

Ferodo Formula's are the way to go IMO (not Excel). I paid about $200 at Autopro for a set to suit AU1 fronts....probably much cheaper from one of the performance brake specialist importers.

The Bendix Ultimates w/stock rotors, had good bite, and pulled up well....but they used to fade real quick (scary on old pac hwy). They annihilated the stock rotors.

I fitted Ferodo Formulas w/DBA slotted about 60,000kms ago. They pulled up a little better than ultimates, firmer pedal than ultimates, and they just dont fade....Never took them to the track though. Pads have just run out, rotors look fine (no ridge).

I'll be using Ferodo Formula DS2500s (I had DS2000's) front and Formula Excels on the rear next pad change along with some good fluid i.e. Motul RBF 600. Maybe some Goodridge braided lines too.

Yep I found that when I had the Ultimates they really chewed the front rotors quick. I've been running the Bendix Advance for the last couple of pad changes with 2 front & 1 rear pad & have found them dust free & doing the job well for city & highway braking with normal rotor wear .

buickman

**FTE217** · 03-11-2005, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagerian

I made the mistake of Ferodo's on the front... Still squealing. Currently waiting for the buggers to die.

I am not a Ferodo spokesman but from my experience I have had an issue with any brand from time to time over the last 25yrs....

Sagerian · 03-11-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver

I am not a Ferodo spokesman but from my experience I have had an issue with any brand from time to time over the last 25yrs....

Fair enough.

I've noticed they do at least stop the car.

Sourbastard · 03-11-2005, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagerian

Fair enough.

I've noticed they do at least stop the car.

Sounds far too functional to me.... maybe add a mugen sticker to your brake calipers for that extra ricey flavour.

Sagerian · 03-11-2005, 05:12 PM

I was thinking about getting brake pad spinners.

BuuBox · 03-11-2005, 05:43 PM

I put $29 brake pads in the front my EB a few months back in a bit of an emergency, and I was surprised at how bad they weren't. I don't get dramatic fade coming down Mount Dandenong as I used to regularly, and haven't had any problems with dust or excessive squeeling.

That said, I've got a set of Bendix Advance (with asbestos) ready to go in...

loxxr6 · 03-11-2005, 06:36 PM

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How about Bendix Ultimates? Ive only heard good things about them....thats what i plan on putting on the XR once my current stock ones wear....

I'm sure they're the ones I have. They've prob been on for less than a year and I haven't had any dramas. They are a bit dusty tho.

03-11-2005, 09:36 PM

Have used EBC... they rooted the rotors. Ferodo Excels... NO grip when cold (living on a hill is scary). Will now go back to Lucas pads which have always been great!

cArSiK · 03-11-2005, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by loxxr6

I'm sure they're the ones I have. They've prob been on for less than a year and I haven't had any dramas. They are a bit dusty tho.

are your rotors still stock?

santoitaliano · 03-11-2005, 10:27 PM

bendix ultimates are ultimate..

just so bloody dusty.. i just weighed it up that a bit of black dust on my front wheels doesnt bother me coz i can now stop on a 10 cent piece...

OldManGhia · 06-11-2005, 08:21 AM

I replaced a set of Zircon pads (never heard of them before) that were squealing with Bendix Advance pads on standard rotors. No squealing anymore and dust is very minimul. Performance for me anyway is more than acceptable.

Anyone want a set of Zircons?

Casper · 06-11-2005, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by xr6007

Ferodo formula pads at the front and ferodo XL's in the rear......If EBC made them for the seriers II on wards i would go for them but they dont so i'll settle for the Ferderal mogul's Ferodo.

Sounds identical to the setup I'm about to do. Funny about that, wonder who recommended them?

: (thanks mate)

xr8 007 · 06-11-2005, 07:41 PM

eheheheheh anytime buddy!!!!

SVR73 · 06-11-2005, 08:15 PM

Very happy with my EBC greens and slotted rotors, from my experience, you have to give them a few hard times when bedding in or they glaze up.
However performance at least with single piston calipers is great and my new 18's help with cooling much more than my 16's which have very small gaps to let air in
After a couple stops, they work fine from then on.

Extremely low dusting, seal or wax the wheels to prevent dusting between washes
However blackstuff's may be an option if you want more durability

ClassicAU · 07-11-2005, 12:03 AM

i just had a bit of an issue with what i thought was my last set of pad on my rear brakes sqeeking and rubbing, but turned out to be a bent left rear axle!

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but i just changed to Bendix Advanced and have not heard a peap out of them so far. I just had to make sure i bedded them in properly for the first 100kms or so. They seem to stop very well, although i am not gain to hammer them just yet, dont want them to move and end up squeeking on me too.