The Thailand Special Thread - New Developments/News

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Surely would just go up a wheel size to put it in something with 126 load rating, surely easier to add a wheel size to the platform than a new rear axle and body mods to cover up duallies.

Well the front tyres will probably stay the same at 255/70/16 or maybe 17". I doubt they'll go bigger diameter than that, because this thing will be commercial focused and will need heavier duty rims and tyres. Only heavy duty trucks run 17"+ diameter.

Now the back tyres won't be any different size unless they run more of them.
Interestingly 255/70/16 are similar diameter to 205/85/16, the latter is a common light truck tyre size.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Ben73

$10 they put the 2L bi turbo engine in it.

Odds on favorite for sure, and I'm going to shout from the rooftops about how lame that is, I don't think there's money in the engineering budget to play different engines, especially when they're doing an experimental project moving it into a different category (light truck).

However, it beats the Isuzu N series, even with the bigger 5.2L diesel 4 cylinder they have in one of them (114kw/419nm or something lame).

[FlipXW]

Surely they put a version on the V6 ecoboost in it. Its already in the raptor so engineering shouldn’t be a problem and its proven to handle big weights in F150 applications.

[Warrenk]

In the US the 2.7ltr ecoboost is already an option in the Ranger.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Odds on favorite for sure, and I'm going to shout from the rooftops about how lame that is, I don't think there's money in the engineering budget to play different engines, especially when they're doing an experimental project moving it into a different category (light truck).

However, it beats the Isuzu N series, even with the bigger 5.2L diesel 4 cylinder they have in one of them (114kw/419nm or something lame).

True, but they do have a very good V6 diesel engine available. I guess there’s a lot more bi tubro engines sitting in the warehouse gathering dust. That’s probably the reason why the “ big tough off-road Termor” comes with the soft engine only.

[XR Martin]

Going by the spy pics I was wrong about dually, but correct regarding what load rating the tyres will be.
275/70R18s 125 rating.

[XR Martin]

BTW I think this is a massive coup by Ford.
Basically will kill off the LC79.
Will also kill off the aftermarket Landcruiser 200/300 dual cab conversions.
They'll still be a market for F150 and Silverado as their more lifestyle based, not hardcore work vehicles.

The only thing that may let Ford down is reliability.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Basically will kill off the LC79.
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Haha, I doubt it.

If the $80k+ price tag can't kill it then nothing will.... Mind you I think the 79 crowd will be less forgiving of the lack of v8 compared to the 300 crowd so perhaps there is a chink in the armour.

[MITCHAY]

It will be interesting to see how a Ranger SD will go. It might be a gap they can exploit in price.

[XR Martin]

70 series has always been limited by supply, and no more V8s can be ordered.
So basically you're left with a 500nm 4cyl TD in a 40yo vehicle with solid front axle and mismatched track widths, as well as a 6 month+ wait and zero star safety.

Or a SD Ranger which has a greater payload, towing and GCM.

[Franco Cozzo]

Curious to see one on the hoist, Fullboost did an VDJ79 and a Ranger Raptor side by side on the hoist, and the Ranger Raptor made the VDJ79 look like it was slapped together with paper maccas straws,

Maybe the Ranger Raptor and the Ranger Super Duty are similarly beefed up,

Curious to see Isuzu NPR/Hino 300 vs Ranger Super Duty as well, they're both 4500kg-5500kg GVM light trucks.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

BTW I think this is a massive coup by Ford.
Basically will kill off the LC79.
Will also kill off the aftermarket Landcruiser 200/300 dual cab conversions.
They'll still be a market for F150 and Silverado as their more lifestyle based, not hardcore work vehicles.

The only thing that may let Ford down is reliability.

If the SD Ranger comes with V8 then you might be correct, otherwise something tells me that is not going to happen. The LC79 might experience a dip in sales but Toyota still has its loyal customer base from rural Australia.