Barry Halls K.O.

[Windsor220]

7 weeks. Sort of seems pointless considering his injury.

[BZINGA]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

And that's why Harry O'Brien will never be any good based on his current methods.
He holds the man and grabs jumpers, and gets away with it. The umpires must be blind, or due to politics in sport, are afraid to do squat.

Tuff call to say Harry won't be any good based on his defence methods. Fev only kicked 1 goal out of his 7 from a contested mark, the others were from marks out in front or snap shots. Harry couldn't match Fev's speed. All backmen grab jumpers or arms to get an advantage, it's all about what you can get away with to beat your opponent.

[atec77]

Originally Posted by swan_ford

hey guys, just finnished watching the sydney V west coast game and just wondering what many of you think about barry's punch on staker? im a sydney fan and am dissapointed that he did it cos i think he'll miss about 6 weeks but i think its great for entertainment, has to be the best punch i have seen in the AFL ever.

If it happened in the street he would be charged , time to stop this stuff and clean the game , at least 6 to 8 weeks off and a big fine

[Woz]

Originally Posted by atec77

If it happened in the street he would be charged , time to stop this stuff and clean the game , at least 6 to 8 weeks off and a big fine

Go stand out on the street and hold someone like Brent Staker was holding Barry Hall and refuse to let go after they try as many times as Barry did to break the hold. You, too, will be charged with assault. That one works both ways, mate.

[CADSKY]

being the swans fanatic i am , i am wraped with halls 7 weeks. if he was going to be out for 7 weeks, atleast he did it at the right time, you know, go out with a bang and all. it was great entertainment and the eagles should be thanking hall! it totally put the swans off the game for alot of the match i felt, and had he not done it, the win would have be far bigger!

[Geez Louise]

I am going to miss Barry for the next 7 games but at least his wrist will heal lovely and I can't wait for his comeback game. Hopefully it will be against the Eagles again. Does anyone know who they are playing in 7 weeks?

[CADSKY]

nah he is back in round 12

sydney plays egals again in round 11

man that sux

[Geez Louise]

Maybe the tribunal condsidered that and that is why he got 7 weeks not 6?? maybe..

[schnoods]

With the AFL's current tribunial system because of Halls early guilty plea he was just 10 points off getting 8 weeks.

All seriousness, I wouldnt be surprised if this doesnt go away and probably be a landmark decision (in the afl) where players who are guilty of striking in the future will know that they can expect in the worse case scenario and will take their chances from there.

And in the Meantime in WA, stirring the pot at work (at the eagles supporters) have never been easier. I walked in with a heap of tissues tucked in my mouth, hit the spot with a few blokes. As well as laws being introduced in parliment which can result in 10 years Jail for a One punch deaths in WA.

[CADSKY]

Originally Posted by schnoods

With the AFL's current tribunial system because of Halls early guilty plea he was just 10 points off getting 8 weeks.

All seriousness, I wouldnt be surprised if this doesnt go away and probably be a landmark decision (in the afl) where players who are guilty of striking in the future will know that they can expect in the worse case scenario and will take their chances from there.

And in the Meantime in WA, stirring the pot at work (at the eagles supporters) have never been easier. I walked in with a heap of tissues tucked in my mouth, hit the spot with a few blokes. As well as laws being introduced in parliment which can result in 10 years Jail for a One punch deaths in WA.

lol, i know my mums b/f will give em heaps, he is a one eyed pies fan but mum is a huge swans fan too and they are living in W.A. atm lol

[Woz]

Originally Posted by schnoods

With the AFL's current tribunial system because of Halls early guilty plea he was just 10 points off getting 8 weeks.

Actually, from all reports that I've read, the case went straight to the tribunal, bypassing the match review panel altogether and therefore stripping Barry Hall of his right to an early guilty plea.

[CADSKY]

Originally Posted by Woz

Actually, from all reports that I've read, the case went straight to the tribunal, bypassing the match review panel altogether and therefore stripping Barry Hall of his right to an early guilty plea.

this is true

however they were strongly urged to take into account the fact that he pled guilty, weather or not they did, well thats anyone guess

[tel408]

:togo:Seven weeks is not long enough, But if that what hes got, maybe if give him time to realise what a thug he is. Any key player will be tagged in one way or another. And just because Staker may have held a little jumper, thats a good reason to get snotted? What a pussy. Brainless barry should hang up the boots if thats the case

In my opinion if say it takes four weeks for his wrist to heal, and then cleared to play, that is when his ban should start. Thats eleven weeks, still not long enough. Weres your "God" now boys! Lets himself down, and his club. Gee what a "Legend"

[BZINGA]

Originally Posted by tel408

:togo:Seven weeks is not long enough, But if that what hes got, maybe if give him time to realise what a thug he is. Any key player will be tagged in one way or another. And just because Staker may have held a little jumper, thats a good reason to get snotted? What a pussy. Brainless barry should hang up the boots if thats the case

In my opinion if say it takes four weeks for his wrist to heal, and then cleared to play, that is when his ban should start. Thats eleven weeks, still not long enough. Weres your "God" now boys! Lets himself down, and his club. Gee what a "Legend"

Apparently his wrist is a 6 week injury, so that leaves him with a 1 match ban.

[tel408]

Originally Posted by TRIK67

Apparently his wrist is a 6 week injury, so that leaves him with a 1 match ban.

Ive just heard the same. What a joke!

[DirtyHarry]

Originally Posted by tel408

Ive just heard the same. What a joke!

I agree entirely. It is a joke. He shouldn't have lost any matches for his entirely justified love tap on Skater.

[Wally]

Barry was just protecting himself from wandering hands. I'm glad someone has focused attention on forwards being constantly mauled by the backs off the ball. It's irritating not being able to see a good full forward do his thing because his tag is holding the shirt, locking the arms, etc the whole match long.

This is more the game I played as a teenager and loved it.

[DoreSlamR]

Originally Posted by DirtyHarry

I agree entirely. It is a joke. He shouldn't have lost any matches for his entirely justified love tap on Skater.

Yep a joke indeed.

West Australian Article

“It’s pathetic because this guy is trained to box and has admitted he went out to punch him in the head when there was no provocation. I watched a kid on the news tonight where he was in a pub brawl and copped one hit - his mate’s dead and he’s in a wheelchair.

ABC News Article

A 31-year-old man has told the District Court in Perth he swung a punch at another man, who later died, because the man had hold of his shirt.

Now thats hilarious....

Oh heres another one!

The hilarity!

Another ABC report

Western Australia's Attorney General Jim McGinty has unveiled proposed one-punch homicide laws which he hopes will pass through parliament next week.
The new law will be called unlawful assault causing death.
The families of Skye Barkwith, Leon Robinson and Dwayne Favazzo, who all died after being punched and whose attackers were not convicted of their manslaughter, gathered today to hear details of the proposed legislation.

Seems all the Hall supporters have missed the pint entirely
Grow up.

[Woz]

Originally Posted by DoreSlamR

Yep a joke indeed.

West Australian Article



ABC News Article



Now thats hilarious....

Oh heres another one!

The hilarity!

Another ABC report




Seems all the Hall supporters have missed the pint entirely
Grow up.

I think this is the first anti-Hall post I've seen in this thread with some legitimicy.

[prydey]

[QUOTE=tel408 And just because Staker may have held a little jumper, thats a good reason to get snotted? What a pussy. Brainless barry should hang up the boots if thats the case[/QUOTE]

have you seen the footage?? the two of them just about needed a room. staker was almost dry humping his leg and copping a feel of breast. whatever it was it was a little more than a 'little jumper' as you put it. most media only show the 'hit' not the carry on leading up to it.

having said that, i'm not condoning what hall did but i don't think he's the villain everyone is labelling him. people have been getting punched in footy for who knows how long. fair enough it was good contact on an unsuspecting player and deserves punishment but maybe it will make defenders think twice next time they play on big bad barry.

[Yaw]

Originally Posted by atec77

If it happened in the street he would be charged , time to stop this stuff and clean the game , at least 6 to 8 weeks off and a big fine

Ok I am not into football of any code,
So this is a genuine question, is there any reason Barry Hall could not be charged with assault if Brent Staker decided to go down that road?

Reason i ask is it seems to me if an example is made and a player was actually given a criminal record and whatever punishment that went along with the charge it would greatly discourage that kind of behaviour.

As for the argument that the football club has an investment in a player...So what? they can simply sue the offending player for breach of thier contract.

Please I am asking this as a genuine question from fans that obviously know a lot more about the game than me.

[ebxr8240]

Originally Posted by Yaw

Ok I am not into football of any code,
So this is a genuine question, is there any reason Barry Hall could not be charged with assault if Brent Staker decided to go down that road?

Reason i ask is it seems to me if an example is made and a player was actually given a criminal record and whatever punishment that went along with the charge it would greatly discourage that kind of behaviour.

As for the argument that the football club has an investment in a player...So what? they can simply sue the offending player for breach of thier contract.

Please I am asking this as a genuine question from fans that obviously know a lot more about the game than me.

Yep and along with the guy who pushed him into the fence when he broke his wrist...

If the umpires were doing there job it would help ....

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Yaw

Ok I am not into football of any code,
So this is a genuine question, is there any reason Barry Hall could not be charged with assault if Brent Staker decided to go down that road?

Reason i ask is it seems to me if an example is made and a player was actually given a criminal record and whatever punishment that went along with the charge it would greatly discourage that kind of behaviour.

As for the argument that the football club has an investment in a player...So what? they can simply sue the offending player for breach of thier contract.

Please I am asking this as a genuine question from fans that obviously know a lot more about the game than me.

Leigh Matthews was charged with assualt when he king hit Neville Bruns in 1985. He was also delisted from the VFL.

[CADSKY]

staker was asked weather or not he intended to persue legal actions towards hall (or something to that affect) the day after the incedent and he confermed that he would not press any charges. i suppose that would be due to the fact that the way staker was all over hall, in the legal eye could be deemed as provocation. remember that they dont take into account the fact that it was part of a game!

[troppo]

Originally Posted by swan_ford

remember that they dont take into account the fact that it was part of a game!

Mitigating circumstance?

[Wally]

It is part of the game and the crowd expect to see it now and again. Just because some committee has decided to pull the female crowd by making silly rules doesn't discount the fact that these blokes are playing a heavy duty contact sport because they like it..

King-hit sounds so much better than knocked to the ground doesn't it. In law a king-hit is being hit heavily when not expecting it. When I view the footage I note Staker had two pretty clear warnings to stop holding off the ball. He is afterall a professional player and would be fully aware of the rule not to hold, but he did it anyway, no doubt under instructions from the coaching staff.

[Stav]

HAHAH.I thought the thread read hairy balls!!It Barry Halls..lol sorry guys heheh Sorry Barry...

[irlewy86]

Originally Posted by West Australian

He said there was no balance between Hall’s penalty and the 12-month ban handed to fallen Eagle Ben Cousins because of his drug abuse.

Typical rubbish reported by the West Australian. Seems the Weagles are worse than Collingwood when it comes to telling hard luck stories.

The "one punch" myth involves the separation of blood vessels and nerves "at the back of the skull". You'll find most instances where someone has been killed they have actually hit there head on something or been king hit in the back of the head.

Barry's punch wasn't the hardest Barry could have hit him and he socked him in the jaw. He got exactly what he deserved in the tribunal and to do any more or less would have been unfair.

[tel408]

[QUOTE=prydey]

Originally Posted by tel408 And just because Staker may have held a little jumper, thats a good reason to get snotted? What a pussy. Brainless barry should hang up the boots if thats the case[/QUOTE

have you seen the footage?? the two of them just about needed a room. staker was almost dry humping his leg and copping a feel of breast. whatever it was it was a little more than a 'little jumper' as you put it. most media only show the 'hit' not the carry on leading up to it.

having said that, i'm not condoning what hall did but i don't think he's the villain everyone is labelling him. people have been getting punched in footy for who knows how long. fair enough it was good contact on an unsuspecting player and deserves punishment but maybe it will make defenders think twice next time they play on big bad barry.

Yes I have seen the footage, and as far as needing a room, maybe thats what you call it in your neck of the woods! Whatever staker may or may not have done, dose it really give the green light to the opponent to smack him in the chops? Are you for real?

People are making out that he has done no wrong, yet he threw the punch. And he is being made the victom. Or is he a victom of his own stupidity? Gee, my heart bleeds. :

[Woz]

Originally Posted by tel408

Yes I have seen the footage, and as far as needing a room, maybe thats what you call it in your neck of the woods! Whatever staker may or may not have done, dose it really give the green light to the opponent to smack him in the chops? Are you for real?

People are making out that he has done no wrong, yet he threw the punch. And he is being made the victom. Or is he a victom of his own stupidity? Gee, my heart bleeds. :

No, it didn't give Barry Hall the green light. It justified nothing. However, that would be the reason why it happened. Barry Hall got frustrated and let loose with a blind swing after two HUGE, yet unsuccessful, attempts to break the hold.

I haven't said at any point that Barry Hall's actions have been justified. Just that Brent Staker wasn't belted from nowhere after doing nothing wrong. He was an instigator. I'm not saying that Barry Hall should have gotten off with a slap on the risk, just that the people crying for him to be hung after letting loose from nowhere have been ridiculous in their ability to be overly one-eyed.