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Old 01-08-2005, 06:19 PM   #1
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About a month ago i installed a full set of kings superlow springs in my au 2 xr8 sedan. Now i have travelled about 1100ks since then and the car has only dropped approx 10mm from my measurements. from the wheel centre to the top of the wheel arch. I still have the factory struts, but even still i would have thought it would have come down more than 10mm. Any ideas???

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hmmm thats different!!! hows the ride and handling with the superlows, better or worse?
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Old 02-08-2005, 05:05 PM   #3
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hmmm thats different!!! hows the ride and handling with the superlows, better or worse?
yeah it handles alot better, alot firmer but not bouncy. i think i might look into new struts now and maybe some SSL kings for the rear.
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10mm is about the avarage for the King SL once settled.
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10mm is about the avarage for the King SL once settled.
Bugga :(
I think i will look at changing them now. The car looks ok but its still not low enough on the 18's for my liking.
012, just looked at the photos of your TS50, what setup are you using, it looks tough, it has a nice stance about it, i have the same rims as you and that is about where i want the car to sit on the rims.
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In those photos, I have custom made King Springs. About 10mm lower than SSL for front, and 25mm lower than the SSL for the rear. I have since (a week ago) changed my front springs to King SL. Was too low with the 19" rims.

I would leave the SL's on the front and change the rears to SSL. This combo is the most practical for a everyday car. Still very low, but not so low that you squash snails as you drive over them :hihi:.
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you could change your rear struts to somthing with an adjustable spring plate, my AU has superlows in rear (ill get a pic up tomorrow its sits level with rim) and I have bilstien adjustable's ,I can change between 4 height settings except the higher I go the stiffer it is. I changed from standard height to lowest a couple of weeks back $40@ACE to get it squating down on the strip,but it bottoms out on steep driveways and big bumps ,once ive run it its going back up abit. thats the advantage!
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SWOOP, where did you get the Bilsteins from and how much?

Photos would be great.
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they came with the car ,when we removed to change to SL's I found that they were adjustable aswell I think SVO did the whole car, so not sure on price ,Id say round $500 for two struts, Ill jack it up tommorow and get some pics

its a basic strut with the bottom spring plate sliding on the body ,only retained buy a c clip underneath in the various slots and by the spring tension itself
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hey have you looked into getting King spring ultra lows which are lower than the sl i have them in mine they look really good a ride height of 330mm? what hight is you XR now with the super lows? i have a set of custom SL king springs out of mine which have a ride height of 315m from centre of wheel to guard? but i found i was scrubbing out tyres to much? does anyone if you can get a camber kit for the irs i know they have a standard kit but its not enough ajustment? anyone else had this trouble?
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i have measured 340mm from the centre of the wheel to the wheel arch on the front and 365mm from the centre of the wheel to the wheel arch on the rear. this seems bugga all difference from the standard springs. I did check the springs before putting them in and the had the SLXXXXX part number on them ????? very strange.
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How did you guys go with them springs?
I'm lookin at puttin the Ultralow King Springs in my au111 xr8.
Chasin pics and whats the wheel to gaurd scrubbing like?
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i pretty sure that ultra low are the same as ssl
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i pretty sure that ultra low are the same as ssl
For the AU range, yes they are the same.
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How did you guys go with them springs?
I'm lookin at puttin the Ultralow King Springs in my au111 xr8.
Chasin pics and whats the wheel to gaurd scrubbing like?
i ended up leaving the super low springs in. i installed some kyb struts and the car has come down just over another 5mm, so im happy with the way it looks. and its practicle for everyday driving. it sits nice and low with 5ppl in the car and a tank of fuel. i have 18" rims with 245/40/18 tyres and dont have any scraping or rubbing problems. it measures 330 from centre to guard at front and 355mm at the rear. here is a pic
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Cool thanks, i was just concerned that the front wheels wont tuck under, have you guys roled your gaurds??
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Today I chucked Casper's old Super lows in the back of mine and it came down from 670 mm to 648mm (nearly an inch). This is measured from the ground to the guard in line with the centre of the wheel. The car now sits low at the back and up at the front, but that should be rectified once I get carratt's front superlows (they should go in some time tonight). I note the original post says 10mm, if that's on an AU2/3, then that would be right because I'm pretty sure that AU2/3 XR height was a bit lower than AU1 (by around 10 or 15mm, IIRC).
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Today I chucked Casper's old Super lows in the back of mine and it came down from 670 mm to 648mm (nearly an inch). This is measured from the ground to the guard in line with the centre of the wheel. The car now sits low at the back and up at the front, but that should be rectified once I get carratt's front superlows (they should go in some time tonight).
Before and after photos would be great!

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pretty much exactly the height drop they did for mine JC.. Glad they have a new home.
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pretty much exactly the height drop they did for mine JC.. Glad they have a new home.
Thanks Casper. Just finished fitting the fronts (thanks to carrat), and the new height is 649mm, down from 660mm - so I think I found where the 10mm comes from! Not a bad height, but when Casper decides SSL is not low enough, I'll take them too!

GK - Didn't get a before shot (and I'm not spending 4 hours returning it to stock), but I can get an after shot at some stage - probably late tomorrow, or later in the week. It's nothing special - only SL, but at least it's not up like a boat anymore (especially the back). With a full tank of petrol AND a full tank of LPG, I reckon it might go another 5mm or so lower at the back too.
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GK - Didn't get a before shot (and I'm not spending 4 hours returning it to stock), but I can get an after shot at some stage - probably late tomorrow, or later in the week.
What about the pics of your ride as your avitar? Is that the height previous the SL springs? If it is, you could blow that pic up I guess!

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What about the pics of your ride as your avitar? Is that the height previous the SL springs? If it is, you could blow that pic up I guess!

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Good idea. I'll take the SL shot from the same angle and that should show the difference.

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but when Casper decides SSL is not low enough, I'll take them too!
That may just happen.. but not this year. I'm already committed to too many thousands of dollars.. the car stays on these springs for a while now..

And then CUSTOM springs.. gotta go LOW BABY!
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Mine with SSL all round
Pic's a bit small, but it looks good. SSL is a bit too low for me (yes, there is such a thing). I think I'm going to scrape out of my driveway even with SL - it was always close at stock height anyway.
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Took the car for a run this morning, and then it has been sitting all day, and front and rear both measure 645mm from ground to guard lip. Very happy with the way it sits and drives - these springs actually soak up the bumps better than the stock ones.
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these springs actually soak up the bumps better than the stock ones.
Told ya. Everyone laughed at me but the SL's are SOFTER than the AU1 XR stock springs.
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Yep - there's 2 big bumps on one particular road I use regularly, and they usually bump the car quite a bit, but today no bumps or anything. The only thing I did in addition to fitting the springs was ensuring that the spring tails pointed the right way this time, and greased up the pivot bolts etc - not sure if that may have made a difference too. If it wasn't for the crap panel and paint work, my car would look quite good now!
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I've got pedders superlows on mine. They made the ride alot harsher as the springs are ALOT firmer than standard. It handles flatter with less body roll, but I wouldn't exactly say it handles better. I think to see the benefits of the springs I need some proper struts (prefferably adjustable koni or bilstein) to match.

Even though I checked the compression and reboud of the monroe shockers before fitting the new springs, I think they're just struggling to keep up with the SL spring rates. One things for sure, it's definately made it look better, especially combined with the BA XR 18" rims!
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Posted this in the AU showroom thread but thought I may as well post it here too, even if only to catch Bucky's post count!
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